. and in 1988 george h.w. bush was down at this point in september by about seven. gregg: you know, i mentioned to our viewers a moment ago the coal industry which is very important to pennsylvania. here's a headline from one newspaper in july, and it reads: pennsylvania coal companies announce layoffs. and the executives blame the policies of president obama and his epa. look, is that having an impact at the polls? >> it very well -- it probably will. i mean, you know, the polls are what they are, but there's a lot of people are angry and upset at the obama administration policies and what it's doing to coal. listen, there's a -- the southwest part of the state, a very coal-dependent economy. now, cross-cutting against that is, as you know, the obama campaign has been really forceful in portraying mitt romney as like this rich, you know, out of touch plutocrat -- gregg: right. >> -- private equity guy, so there's cross-pressures on a lot of these guys between, you know, like, anger over what's happening to coal and also manufacturing. gregg: yeah. >> and sort of a, you know, there -- they're b